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2000 January - March Letters From Readers

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 03:40:35 -0500 From: Clarence Conner Subject: Equal Time I've always been ashamed of the hypocrisy and bias in American news media, however the show Equal Time which recently (11 Jan 2000) featured Senator McCain, Governor Bush and Steve Forbes, discussing their tax plans, really has spot lighted yet another dimension of media bias. Where was Alan Keyes? With Keyes far ahead of Mr. Forbes and, in some polls I've seen , Gov. Bush and Senator McCain, as well as having a bold new tax plan that is radically different (and in my opinion, far better) than the other GOP contenders, I am left with no choice than to believe the omission of Mr. Keyes was due to the color of his skin. I find it hard to come up with any other reason. Perhaps, the name of the program should be changed to "Equal Time (as long as you are white)." This way, I'll be forewarned and can avoid wasting my time viewing the program. I'm sure I can find some other meaningful project to occupy my time. Perhaps then I could use this time to create a web site asking for a boycott of NBC and Microsoft until those in charge realize that racial exclusion is no longer tolerable in this country. Mr. Clarence L. Conner
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:09:04 EST From: Victoria Namkung Subject: Kip Fulbeck/Seaweed Productions Dear Editor, I just wanted to let you know about Kip Fulbeck, one of the premiere multiracial performance and video artists in the country. A professor of Art Studio at UC Santa Barbara, Kip's first novel is being published this fall, most of which deals with being hapa and male. Kip continues to speak, lecture and perform around the country. Please visit his website at for more information. Thanks, Victoria Namkung Publicist for Kip Fulbeck
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:49:44 -0400 From: john nathan Subject: Letter to the Editor Hello, I wish yu good luck with yur righteous work for all multiracials. shalom aleichem, john
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:22:19 -0800 (PST) From: Tina Banks Subject: Letter to the Editor Do you know of any scholarships or grants offered to college students of a multiracial background? Editor: Not I, but maybe one of the members of our studio audience can help you.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:08:16 -0800 (PST) From: Sabaka Subject: Letter to the Editor Dear Mr. Landrith, What Todd said in his post was not silliness as you described it. Like it or not, he has addressed a reality that the multiracial movement is abhorred to accept,that mulattos, are Black people. I've argued at Interracial Voice that, it is white people who created, developed, and maintain hypodescent, not Black/African American people. The multiracial movement can never realize its desires/objectives, as long as white people remain in power, that is, in control of the material and mental means of production of society. As long as whites remain in power, institutionalized racism/white supremacy will continue unabated, to the detriment of whites, all peoples of color in general, and Black/African Americans in particular. Unfortunately, the multiracial movement lacks a scientific analysis of race relations (I am dismayed that not one contributor has been able to tell the difference between racism and race prejudice?!) and this is why they are set up for chronic disappointment. Institutionalized racism/global white supremacy DEMANDS that whites be supreme, and as a result, all whom they have not defined as white,(including those they allow to "pass" as white) are considered Black/mixed/bi-multi/mulatto, and ultimately the N-word. What Todd said is not silly, it is the norm. Todd is also correct when he asked "are you after the children's best interest, or your own." White parents can never fully divorce themselves from their own racist values having come up in a racist society. They must be ambivalent toward Blacks, it is impossible to be otherwise, and as a result, they must feel the pressures of having a nonwhite child and mate. By militating for a multiracial status category, white parents can at least say, "the child isn't really Black, it's mixed/bi/multiracial", with the intention/hope of alleviating some of the stigma, for themselves and the child, that is associated with being Black in this country. It is in the childs best interest, to be raised as a Black American or whatever race he/she most phenotypically resembles. This solution would not undermine interracial marriage at all, and the child would still not be precluded from celebrating the white parents heritage. This, I believe would make for an all around healthier situation, until such time as, institutionalized racsm/global white supremacy is dismantled. Yours, Sabaka Editor: Dear Sabaka, I've previously read your one-drop soaked postings at IV and don't buy your whole "what about the children" bit. Children of mixed-race grow into stable, mature adults with ever-increasing consistency all over this nation, succeeding in life in spite of racism from all races. What you are actually proposing is a last ditch attempt by the black supremacist movement to erase bi/multiracial identity from the face of the earth. You and yours have lost the war. I for one, will not back down. I fully comprehend the complex nature of race relations in this country, I'm just not willing to let the past dictate the future. Things are changing, people are marrying interracially, multiracial children are growing into multiracial adults and achieving incredible success in all areas of life. It's time for the one-droppers and supremacists of all hues to get over it. The war is over. We're now in the cleanup phase. Change is hard, I understand, but our community will only tolerate so much. Scare tactics and "Whitey won't accept you" arguments have long been debunked. The world is rapidly changing. You keep fighting the stream all you want. I have too much work to do to spend any more of my time fighting with those who won't accept defeat.
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 01:14:54 EST From: Sabaka Subject: RE: Reply to Mr.Landrith Dear Mr. Landrith, Thank you for making my post public, censorship is so undemocratic. Let me make my position very clear. I am not against white people, multiracial people, interracial marriages or mixed babies. What I am against, is institutionalized racism/global white supremacy, and it's child, pathological color/race prejudice. I am also vehemently opposed to your movements true motive/objective, as well as, I have just learned, the Tan American movement, and that is, to be officially designated as a new race. Now we are talking color/racial hierarchy, in a word, pigmentocracy, and that would mean serious political, social, and economic consequences for Black/African Americans in specific, and for overall society in general. It was for this reason, I believe, that the monopoly capitalist white power structure denied you your "box." You say that I am "one-drop soaked," but I think you and some others are missing the point, that being, for whites, "one drop" means not white. Even if you had an official multiracial designation what would change for you vis a vis institutionalized/racism/global white supremacy? Mexican Americans are, I believe, classified and identify as white ( when it's convient to do so ), yet complain about being victims of racism ( at least they aren't accusing Black/African Americans of racially oppressing them ). In the Weds. Jan. 26 2000 edition of the N.Y. Times, pg.A7 reads, "Some Texans Say Border Patrol Singles Out Too Many Blameless Hispanics." Judge Vela ( a Hispanic federal judge ), asked a Border Patrolman, when he observed that only Hispanics were being stopped, "Do you ever stop anybody who isn't BROWN?" Mr. Hinojosa, a county judge, and even the Hispanic supervisor of the Border Patrol, Juan Lopez, have been detained for no other reason than they fit "the racial profile." My point is, one drop or one gallon=Black=brown=red=yellow=tan=multiracial=the N-word= bottom line, NON/NOT WHITE. This was also the point that Todd was attempting to make. By the way, what what happened to Todd's post? Until institutionalized racism/global white supremacy is dismantled, this will remain the social reality and all the feel good editorials and essays, all the interracial marriages and mixed babies, and accusing people of being "one-droppers" will not change this. You say, "the war is over." I really wish that was the case, however, from the ever increasing reports on racial conflict in this country, in Europe and around the world ( For example, look at the war that the white minority in Equador is waging against their indigenous Indian population, ), this war is far, far from being over. With all due respect Mr. Landrith, I don't think you really understand the racial complexities in this country. Or maybe you do and that is why you and your movement are so anti-Black and pro-color hierarchy. I know that you are married to a woman "of color" and your're probably saying, how can I suggest that your are anti-Black? Remember, NYPD police officer, Justin Volpe's fiancee is Black, but it didn't stop him from "sticking"( excuse the pun ) it to a Black person. All whites in this country are racist, because they have been reared in a racist society, therefore, it cannot be helped. Many whites like yourself, truly attempt to be conscious of there racism and genuinely struggle against it, but all to often fall back into their racist attitudes/behaviors without realizing it. The best example of white people seriously struggling against Institutionalized racism/global white supremacy, was the great martyr, John Brown and his martyred followers. They were real. When you have a chance visit the "Race Traitor" website. Yours, Sabaka. Editor: What about Todd's post? Todd has written to me twice. Both emails are posted up. The one you referred to in your last email was sent in 1999 and is appropriately on the 1999 letters page, where it has been since it's submission. See: A previous submission from Todd, who is white, BTW, and has admitted in a private email to me that he is against interracial marriage because he has been mistaken for multiracial and hispanic previously is also available on this website, although I don't remember the month. Probably 2nd or 3rd quarter of 1999. You can support Todd and his anti-interracial marriage position all you like, but try to learn the basic facts of your new friends beliefs first. I understand the complexities of racism in the US just fine. I just don't believe you have the right to suppress an entire group of people to promote your beef with whites. That is what your one-drop soaked ravings are all about. Checking boxes on the Census has nothing to do with institutional or other racism. It's not about hailing cabs or anything else. The push for a multiracial category was about people checking boxes without being asked to deny major parts of their heritage and identity all for the sake of fascist individuals like you who wish to control others. I wish to control no one. I currently favor abolition of all raci19th century Roman Catholic nun Henriette Delille. Not only does Williams not look like the "quadroon" she is supposed to be playing, she uses the term "black" to refer to obviously mixed-race people. Creole society in the 19th century distinguished between "free people of color" and "blacks." Williams seemed to be promoting a "one drop" agenda. Some "Black" Catholics in the U.S. are on a crusade to have Delille declared a "black" saint. Her picture is below. Does she look "black" to you? If "blacks" come in "all colors," as the "one drop" idiots contend, why are they afraid to have Delille and others like her portrayed by actors who actually looked like them? They know that, if they told the truth, it would be clear that the people they are desperate to claim were NOT BLACK.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:20:15 -0600 From: A.D. Powell
Subject: Jefferson and Hemings In the renewed scandal regarding Thomas Jefferson's and his concubine, Sally Hemings, we must not forget two things: (1) Jefferson did NOT sire "black" children and (2) their mother was NOT a "black" woman. Nothing about the Sally Hemings/ Thomas Jefferson story makes sense unless the whiteness of the Hemings family is emphasized. "Negro blood" by itself did not make anyone a slave. It was the maternal descent rule of partus sequitur ventrem that enslaved a person - if the maternal slave line was unbroken by legal manumission. A slaveholder could, legally, have more "negro blood" than his slave. A legal white man could have more Negro blood than a so-called light mulatto who would be legally white if he were manumitted. The latter was possible because the general Southern rule was to establish one-eighth or less "Negro blood" as the dividing line between "white" and "mulatto." Even this could be modified by such things as reputation, acceptance by the local white community, property ownership, etc. Hard as it may be for persons raised on "one drop" mythology to believe, a person classified as a "mulatto slave" would, if manumitted and one-eighth or less black, legally become a free white person rather than a "free colored." As Thomas Jefferson, himself stated: Our canon considers two crosses with the pure white, and a third with any degree of mixture, however small, as clearing the issue of the Negro blood. But observe, that this does not reestablish freedom, which depends on the condition of the mother, the principle of the civil law, partus sequitur ventrem being adopted here. It is ridiculous to say, for example, that Eston Hemings Jefferson "pretended" to be white or "passed" for white. He didn't "pass" for anything. He WAS legally white. We should also note that all of Eston's descendants are white - if such a thing as "whiteness" or "blackness" can be said to exist at all. Remember that "whites" are part of the "multiracial" continuum (in contrast to the popular "one drop" myth that all "blacks" are racially "mixed" and "whites" are all "pure). An excellent resource regarding the political importance of "white slavery" is The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War: A New Look at the Slavery Issue by Lawrence R. Tenzer. A.D. Powell
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:40:02 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Harris Subject: Letter to the Editor James, After reading Frances Onipede neo-McCarthyist style smear attack against the TMA. It is obvious that she doesn't really give care about mixed race people and our struggles. Onipede's pretty speech in the TMA guestbook can be interpreted as her defense of the "right" of "one droppers" to discipline those they falsely claim or try put in their place. Amazing. When someone dares have the audacity to criticize the "one droppers" ridiculous logic behind forcing a certain identity for mixed-race people, then they are the bully. However, when "one droppers" threatens them with psychological terrorism as well as character assassination, they must not be criticized. With "friends" like Onipede, who needs enemies.
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:51:30 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Hydak Subject: Letter to the Editor I love your web page, I have been saying the same things for years (and am usually told I am a "racist") and never found an organization that believed the same things as I. When are people going to learn to be proud of their accomplishments and not the color of their skin?
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 01:04:02 EST From: Sabaka Subject: Response to your editors note. Dear Mr. Landrith, That we live in a democracy, it is, I believe, a given, that it is appropriate to disagree with someone else's position. I don't know how you can construe my opposition to a multiracial category as an attempt to suppress an entire group? Being that multiracials, will for the first time be allowed to check off their various racial and ethnic heritage's, would seem to me, that you have been granted exactly what you've wanted, i.e., to officially express your multiple heritage's. So where is the suppression? I have no desire to control/suppress you or your group nor do I possess the power to do so, however, I do have a right and an obligation to speak out against anyone/group that is a threat to me or my group. There is an abundance of evidence historical and contemporary to establish that, an intermediate "race" between Blacks and whites, will result in serious political, social and economic consequences for Black people. There is no evidence to demonstrate to the contrary, and if you understand the racial complexities as you say you do, then you know that such an idea under institutionalized racism/global white supremacy is totally untenable. For example, the Hispanic population, is in fact, an "intermediate race/group," and you can see the problems/conflicts between them and Blacks, especially, in Calif., the Southwest, and Florida, and this situation is only going to get worse as their population increases. My "beef" as you put it, is not with white people per se, but with their historically developed mindset/worldview-----institutionalized racism/global white supremacy. If you feel that you are being/have been suppressed, then direct yourself to the Federal Census Bureau/OMB, as it was those agencies that denied multiracials their exclusive racial "box." You referred to me as a fascist which is totally inappropriate and inflammatory. This is a very loaded term and I consider it slanderous and misrepresentative of my comments and request that you remove it from your post. I have never been, nor am I, nor will I ever be a fascist! I am not thin-skinned nor am I above name calling/razzing/labeling, however, there are lines and this term has too many connections with Hitler and Nazism, and I do not want my name associated with them in any way. You can call me whatever you like, barring the N-word and fascist. You also wrote, that I am "anti-interracial marriage." I don't know how you came up with this, given, that from the onset of my post, I clearly stated that I am not anti-interracial marriage. Let me state here for the record that, I am pro interracial marriage, however, I am anti-multiracial -"race" category. Todd is not my friend, however, the part of his post that I quoted is absolutely the reality of things, like it or not. I agree, that the racial categories are divisive and do little if anything to promote harmony and defeat racism, however, being officially recognized as a new racial group is exactly what the multiracial movement is all about. Don't you find your position just a little contradictory? In closing, it is wrong morally and it is wrong strategically to continue to scapegoat Black/African Americans for hypodescent. Hypodescent/ "one-drop", is the invention of white people, they developed it and they maintain it. If every Black individual tomorrow stood up and shouted from his/her rooftop, "mulattos are not Black!", do you really believe that masses of white people would look at them ( mulattos ) any differently? Come on. Hypodescent and a host of other racial problems will end when institutionalized racism/global white supremacy ends, and not before, like it or not. Yours, Sabaka Editor: First you say: "I have no desire to control/suppress you or your group nor do I possess the power to do so, however, I do have a right and an obligation to speak out against anyone/group that is a threat to me or my group. There is an abundance of evidence historical and contemporary to establish that, an intermediate "race" between Blacks and whites, will result in serious political, social and economic consequences for Black people." Then you go on to say that you are not a fascist. Hmmm. It seems to me that you do wish to control multiracials. Otherwise there is no point to your attacks on me at this site and your attacks on the good readers of INTERRACIAL VOICE. Remember, you sought us out and attacked us. Not exactly the peace-loving victim you're trying to portray in this email. Your statements above reinforce my previous comments. I stand by my assessment of you and your agenda. The emperor, as they say, has no clothes. In your psychotic ravings you claim that all whites in the U.S. are racists, including the humble editor of the web page, then you go on to say that you say you have a right to speak out against anyone/group that is a threat to you. Next you demand that I remove comments from my site that were spawned by an email you sent me? And I/we are supposed to just take it and smile and say "golly gee, I guess he's right. We really are racist by birth. It must be in our genes. Let's just bend over and take one for the cause." As my mother would say, "That is a pipe dream." As I said before, the war is over. Our movement has reached critical mass. It's just a matter of time, marriage and procreation. Stand in the way all you like. You can't stop us.
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 02:05:20 -0600 From: A.D. Powell
Subject: Third Melungeon Conference The Melungeon Heritage Association, Inc. has announced that Third Union will be held May 18-21, 2000, on the campus of the University of Virginia's College at Wise (formerly known as Clinch Valley College). For more information, contact MHA president, Connie Clark (e-mail:, or write to MHA at PO Box 4042, Wise, VA 24293. See (Melungeons are Southern mountain people with a triracial (European/ African/American Indian) heritage. Most descendants of Melungeons identified as Southern "whites." They are now publicizing their racially mixed ancestry and hidden history.)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: B. M. Bronson Subject: Letter to the Editor As an African American father of a 4 1/2 year old multiracial son I have great interest in the issues surrounding the development of mixed race children. Before my wife and I decided to get married and have kids we both agreed that we were going to raise our children as human beings of African-Irish-German American descent. I think it is very important for parents to explain and define their childrens ethnicity as soon as possible so that their children are not defined by people who don't respect or embrace their multiracial heritage. As I explained to my son, America has been playing race games for over 400 years and its not going to stop anytime soon therefore the only thing that really matters is the love and respect that your family has for you and each other. It is my feeling and experience that non-Whites will be much more excepting of my son then Whites, therefore I will encourage my son to seek a much broader experience then the one he will find in the US because 3/4 of the world are people of color. However, at the end of the day my son will ultimately find out that we are define by our family and the small community of friends that treat us with love dignity and respect. BMB Loving father of a biracial son.
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 09:31:23 -0800 (PST) From: George Winkel Subject: Is Sabaka fascist? On 1/29/00 @ 01:15 Sabaka wrote, in part: All whites in this country are racist, because they have been reared in a racist society, therefore, it cannot be helped. Many whites like yourself, truly attempt to be conscious of there [sic] racism and genuinely struggle against it, but all to often [sic] fall back into their racist attitudes/behaviors without realizing it. The best example of white people seriously struggling against Institutionalized racism/global white supremacy, was the great martyr, John Brown and his martyred followers. They were real. (Brackets added.) I think this holding John Brown up as a "martyred" role-model shows where Sabaka is coming from. Abolitionist or not, John Brown was a terrorist in modern parlance. He massacred five settlers and led a deadly armed raid on Harper's Ferry (1859, 10 more dead), in a futile attempt to ignite a race-war. John Brown was hanged. Perhaps Sabaka now follows convicted lifer (former death-rower) Charles Manson? In 1969 Manson organized massacres -- murderous "helter-skelter" rampages in the homes of movie celebrities -- meant to be blamed on blacks. Manson's aim, too, was to ignite a race-war. Brown and Manson both seemed fanatical, crazed. Does the description fit Sabaka? Sabaka pays lip service now and then to decrying racial divisions: "I agree, that the racial categories are divisive and do little if anything to promote harmony and defeat racism ...." But Sabaka clearly is committed to a worldwide split -- so-called "pure white" versus everyone else. (Sabaka preaches "white v. nigger," as sharply, cruelly as if to cut our blue Earth "racially" into barbed-wire concentration camps. See Sabaka's Point Counterpoint posts to Interracial Voice. Sabaka's inflammatory diatribe demanding all-or-nothing racial categorizing, an iron-clad "One-Drop Rule," cannot be intended to ever lead to peaceful ending of racial discrimination (or whatever causes ethnicity to correlate with inequality). Rather Sabaka talks of "dismantling" "institutionalized racism /global white supremacy" in confrontational rhetoric unmistakably implying violent overthrow. Couple this with Sabaka's gerrymandering the word "racism" -- bloating it in so many words to mean "being white" -- and the combination unmistakably spells genocide. Sabaka has posted opining that fear of black males' "superiority" underlies white racism on which Sabaka blames everything: "... as long as white people remain in power." Hitler, too, expressed beliefs like these in the genetic materiality and "inequality" of human "races" he was, of course, another scape-goat artist of infamy. (And how many holding Sabaka's posted views might condone wrongful acts, with hopes of eroding the fabric of "white dominated" "corporate society"? Wouldn't Sabaka's philosophy absolve criminals of responsibility as "driven," "victimized," etc.? Couldn't such apologies at least license "minorities" allegedly "incapable of racism" to discriminate with impunity against the smallest minority, of mixed-race?) Sabaka raves about the ubiquitousness of "white racism." But to show it, Sabaka has to ressurect 19th Century authors, drag up long-dead historical atrocities, and scrape the bottom of the barrel for contemporary anecdotes. Sabaka's bizarre "racism" claims spring from ideology, not evidence. Lacking rational bases, they are ridiculous. As a committed Black Separatist, Sabaka evidently has no comprehension of "white" peoples' thought now, a third of an American century after their transformation by the hand of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Sabaka does not write like someone who was around at the time of the King-led movement, or to have gazed on the face of true White Supremacy/Racism as it was in those evil days of the American apartheid. I saw. Dr. King's raceless, embracing leadership switched off the main burners of "white" racism (forever, I hope), and for just a moment the engines of government stopped rending our Peoples based on their alleged "race." (My wife and I married.) Sabaka wants to go on twisting the garrote in the other direction. I think Editor Landrith was charitable calling Sabaka "fascist."
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:37:07 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Ellis Subject: Letter to the Editor Hi- My wife and I live in the Triangle area of North Carolina Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill) The city has recently launched a "don't pour grease down the drain" campaign called "Don't Be a Greaser." This is an unacceptable racial slur. I called the manager of the city's sewer service to inform him that "greaser" is an offensive term. He first pleaded ignorance -- and then told me where to put my comments and concern. I'd like to ask your help. I'm copying in a list of people in Raleigh government -- as well as an article on the program from the Raleigh News and Observer (local daily paper). Thanks, Alan
  • City Manager Dempsey E. Benton (919) 890-3070
  • Asst. City Manager Lawrence E. Wray (919) 890-3160
  • Asst. City Manager Carolyn H. Carter (919) 890-3070
  • Crisp, Gail
  • Culbreth, Brenda
  • Hatley, Reba
  • Fender, Marc
  • Garland, John
  • Gibson, Marti
  • Jackson, Donna
  • Jackson, Scott
  • Massenburg, David City of Raleigh: Offices: Avery C. Upchurch Government Complex, 222 W. Hargett St., Room 209 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 590, Raleigh, N.C., 27602 Phone: (919) 890-3050 - voice, 890-3058 - fax Monday, January 10, 2000 Ads fish for awareness about grease disposal By JOANNA KAKISSIS, Staff Writer URL:
    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:42:40 -0800 (PST) From: rpuppie Subject: Letter to the Editor As far as it goes with our buddy sabaka, I' ll say this: Massa sho'nuff done a good job wit you!you got his one drop theory commited to memory and according to Charlie, you gone start you one of them "black people are the superior race" groups! Good for you you lawn jockey!! As for the Editor, fight the good fight! Evolve or go the way of the Dinosaur, Rpuppie. P.S. Sabaka, may your grand children blend and become whole.
    Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:21:29 -0800 From: Mitra Sen Subject: just a little red dot To the Director I wanted to make your organization and its members aware of an award winning educational film called'just a little red dot...' which is based on a true story that empowers young people to challenge racism and celebrate cultural diversity. The film has won 12 international awards including the Grand Trophy at the New York Festivals and 1st Place at the Columbus Ohio Film and Video Festival for Cultural Issues. For more information about the film and supplementary teaching guide please visit: and click the icon just a little red dot. Thank you for helping to spread the message.
    Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: Dominick Baldera Subject: Letter to the Editor James - Excellent site, Kudos! Just wanted to pass the word along that the online magazine Salon ( is running a series of articles all this week (Feb 14 - Feb 18) on interracial relationships. Thought some of your readers might be interested (although I'm sure you're already on top of it!) Cheers! Dominick
    Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:55:32 EST From: Sabaka Subject: Response to your editors note. Dear Mr. Landrith, Goerge Winkel, like yourself, not being able to seriously challenge my positions............... Editor: ENOUGH!! Sabaka, we get the point. You don't like those you perceive to be white people. Especially white people with multiracial children who disagree with your notions of black supremacy. Move on. You've had your say. I'll not cover this again.
    Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:14:41 -0800 (PST) From: Frances Osaigbovo Subject: Letter to the Editor Did you know about the government's plan to make affrimative action illegal? If you don't currently know about it contact Black Student Union at geneseo. You can start by using the email address above. Please i would appreciate it if you could send this information to the people on your mailing list, because affrimative action affects everyone. Some basic solutions are writing letters to congress or senators. If there you have any other suggestion please contact me as soon as possible. Thank you for your time and patience.
    Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:58:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Subject: Letter to the Editor I have no problems with interracial marriages or couples or they offspring that they produce. I just wonder why is their so much of emphasis on people naming like 10 different things that they are mixed with it. Arent all black people mixed with something ? It seems like interracial people want to distance themselves from black people and intermingle with people other races other than black. I know a family that is Biracial (black-white) all them are married to or have kids by white people and all their kids look white. I wonder how are these kids that are 3/4 white and 1/4 black are going to relate to black people if all they see are white faces and light-skin faces. the kids of the biracial family have all white friends. I have another friend that is Dutch-black-Native-American and he says that he's not black and he wants his kids to look white so that they wont have to go through what he went through. It seems that children of interracial unions who don't identify themselves as black always intermarry or have children with people that are not black. To dilute the black so that their kids can pass with a white world or hispanic world, anything but black folks. I trying to understand how mixed race people feel but I cant seemed to grasp it. I live in Michigan and if you can direct to some groups where I can meet other interracial people so they I can open my mind and not be so close minded. I feel that with all this mixing that black people would loose their ground and wont have a say so and society will favor and cater to mixed-race blacks as I call them and leave the "dark skin" ones behind. Society has always favored the light-skin mixed race black beauty (Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne, Vanessa Williams, Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Michael Michelle and the list is endless. a lot of the black characters that are featured on soap operas or other shows are usually biracial people (Black-white.) Then when people see a dark-skin black person they say that is ugly give us a black women, that looks like Halle berry or a black man that looks like sheemar Moore, Both Halle and Sheemar Moore Identity themselves a African-American but do acknowledge their half-white side. This whole black vs mixed-race/biracacial/multiracial is getting bad. i sense alot of hatred on this letter board. Let's come together people !!!! Can we all at least try to get along, we are all people of color !!!!!! Editor: The big deal is that people have a right to define themselves and not be hostage to the collective. This group identity business that is pushed by those opposed to multiracial identity is a form of suppression and slavery. A person's right to self-identify is not dependent on the permission of others. You identify how you see fit. I'll identify how I see fit and we'll all get along. Anything else is unacceptable.
    Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:21:50 -0600 From: A.D. Powell
    Subject: Mixed-Race Family on the Titanic showcased as "black" Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry is falsely presenting a mixed-race family, the Haitian mulatto Joseph Laroche, his "white" French wife, Juliette, and their two daughters as the only "blacks" on the Titanic. They've even hired two very "black" actors to portray the couple. The very Negroid actress who is supposedly portraying the "white" Juliette Laroche tried to justify her historically inaccurate portrayal by saying, "I've seen her picture. I've seen her features...She definitely looks like she could have been mixed." As if THAT would give anyone the right to erase Juliette's European ancestry and heritage! (If Juliette looked "black," so did Ingrid Bergman). In the Chicago Tribune's article of 2/20/00 Judith Geller, author of TITANTIC: WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST, is quoted as saying, "It is strange...that nowhere in the copious 1912 press descriptions of the ship and the interviews with the survivors was the presence of a black family among the passengers ever mentioned." Hello?! Is that "white liberal" thick in the head? No "black" family was mentioned because the Laroche family was NOT BLACK and was not considered to be such by the other passengers. That wasn't too difficult to figure out! This is only ONE of too many examples of the lies told when mixed-race history is stolen and passed off as "black" history. I urge readers to write to the museum at and the Chicago Tribune's editorial page editor at to protest this deliberate falsification of history.
    Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:06:22 -0800 (PST) From: greg Subject: Letter to the Editor Thank you for your page on Bob Jones University. I have lived in Greenville, SC almost all my life and know first-hand what an evil institution this is. I have known many people who have gone through that school and their stories are horrifying. One of my neighbors was sent there because her dad beat her it was found out. I have heard ex-BJU people talk about hidden racist meetings that take place at night there also. Gotta run - late..... greg
    Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:39:21 -0800 (PST) From: Kimberly Matthews Subject: Letter to the Editor I am a 28 year old white female that is engaged to a 40 year old black male. I am having so many problems with my family dealing with the issue of us getting married. I have been trying to find articles or books relating to interacial marriages/religion point of view on this topic. Can anyone help me out here? Editor: Try the following links:
  • The Multiracial Activist Book Store
  • ISSUES-Interracial Relationships/Marriage
  • ISSUES-Race and Religion
    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:09:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Subject: Letter to the Editor The family on the Titanic is news to me. It seems like the writer A.D. Powell is made cause the article says they were black. His was black and maybe his wife was white. People act like a person that a biracial (Black-white) is not black at all. That is stupid to say they are not black at all. Mariah Carey has said that she is BLACK, VENEZUELAN AND IRISH. Mariah carey told vibe magazine that people that are mixed know they are members' of the Black Race. This web site seems like a web site that hates black people. There are a lot of black people who marry outside there race for other reasons other than love. A lot of blacks marry white other races cause of self-hate on their part, that is an issue that needs to be discussed. These black men who have kids with these white women and leave them and then these kids are raise by this white women in a white environment with no black faces or influences then they grow up to hate their black side and then say I'm not black, I'm multiracial. Like people who are bisexual who really are "Gay' but don't wanna identity with the gay side cause of the negative images associated with being a gay person. So they say there are "bisexual." Editor: You refer to the "black race" as if it is some kind of biological reality. Race is a purely social construct with no basis in genetics. The sooner people begin to understand this concept, the sooner we'll stop having "we own you" racial identity wars. As for this website hating black people you're wrong. This website despises racial identity police who believe it is their right to enforce old, unconstitutional concepts such as "Jim Crow" on self-identifying multiracials. No one here hates black people, however, many of this website's critics hate interracial marriage and consider the self-identification issue some kind of license for bashing those who choose to identify differently than how they want them too. Embrace collectivist group-think concepts and fear freewill if you must, but give the "anti-black" garbage a rest. It's old and tired. Those who don't let the self-appointed identity police do their thinking for them know better. For more information, see: Lee Dye: We're All The Same
    Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:36:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Subject: Letter to the Editor Mr. A.D. Powell Mixed Race History is black History. Some Of the First "Black" in any field where people who were light skinned and mixed. It seems like the people on this board wanna move away from black and move with white or Latino. Some of the first judges and doctors and lawyers and people who made it into the upper parts of the corporate world were people black people of mixed-race background. This especially true in the entertainment world. There vision of black beauty is Halle Berry and Vanessa Williams. Halle is biracial but Vanessa Williams mother is black and her father is Biracial. This is fine with me but I see these women as black and they identity themselves a black people along with people like Jasmine Guy, Michael Michelle, Lenny Kravtis and Faith Evans, Mya and Cindy Herron of En Vogue. Hollywood will promote Latino actress like Jennifer Lopez and Salma Hayek rather than there more Ethnic looking Latin actresses cause Jennifer and Salma look more mixed with maybe white than looking like most other Latinos who look more Ethnic. White people didn't want blacks in certain places so they would accept light-skinned blacksopper whites, blacks, and anyone else that believes in the superior race garbage) will be extinct! Editor: This reader is referring to Steve Sailer's commentary: "Are Caublinasians Genetically Superior?".
    Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:59:38 -0500 From: M*A*S*Hmail Subject: good info Thanks for posting all the info about Bob Jones "University." Those people are sicker than I ever imagined. They are an embarrassment to real Christianity.
    Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:52:54 EST From: Subject: Our Picture Short story, heard of Bob Jones U. on Leno tonight (2/29/00). Searched for articles on the web to find out what he was talking about. Found your site, very informative. Would like to share our photo with you. I'm Puerto Rican from NY and my wife is African-American from TX. We are Ralph & Sherry, the Cabreras, expecting our first in Sept.!
    Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 11:23:51 -0500 From: Safara Fisher Subject: Multicultural Info Wanted I just clicked on to your web page. I am currently a Masters student in Sociology and Education. I am researching about biracial identity and education. I became interested in the topic after a class discussion here at Teachers College on Ebonics. I thought about how biracial students would fit into the language debate. What are some of the issues that are being discussed around biracial students and new curriculum and/or classroom development. How does being biracial or multiracial affect learning? I would appreciate any information you may have to offer (referrals for periodicals, books, authors etc.) In addition, my career goal is to teach about multiculturalism to students who are interested in education. Are there other people who are interested in my subject matter? Are there any career fairs or conventions around multiculturalism? I would like to be on your mailing list or email list. safara fisher 121 Seaman Ave. Apt5B New York, NY 10034
    Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 21:37:31 -0500 From: greg t Subject: Bob Jones University in case you don't have Bob Jones U.'s response to the controversy
    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 03:58:09 -0800 (PST) From: K. Subject: Letter to the Editor I noticed the other day in Beau Bonneau Casting (84 First Street, San Francisco, CA) that on its talent database, it requests an actor's ethnicity/ies. One of the choices is "mulatto". Besides the obvious problem of a potential employer essentially asking those EEOC no-no questions, haven't we moved on from a word derived from the Spanish word for mule? As an actor, I must find indirect ways to protest this act (or lose any chance of employment). Are there connections in the Bay Area that I might go to? Thanks.
    Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 10:26:35 -0800 From: LaLa SanrioLove Subject: A thought.... Hi, I just wanted to thank you for providing information to the general public. I greatly appreciate it. I found the links and articles about BJU very interesting. As a Christian, a conservative, a fundamentalist (meaning that I believe in literal Bible interpretation) and all the other labels imposed on me, I would like to express that I do not believe that the mixing of races is wrong. I just don't understand how people who love God could support division within His body. I think it is very bad that so many Christians are allowing our brethern to opening claim such is Biblical, when most of us know that it isn't. I found it interesting that in some of the articles I read from your links, I was referred to as a "pseudo-fundamentalist", a neo-evangelistic" and such. That's unique. I personally, would rather people stop calling me a "Christian" because I simply do not believe what most American Christians are portrayed to believe or have expressed throughout history. I am a follower of Jesus and I just don't believe that He acted like most today and in history did. If I'm a "pseudo" or "neo" so be it. As many are now doing, I am trying to live a life, not of legalism (which is NOT a favored principle in the Bible), but of love. That's what Christ was all about. He came to set captives free and show love to all. That's the heart of Christianity. Bigotry and judgement are not for the church and I'm sick of seeing it. The Bible teaches a very different lesson on judging, than what America's seeing today in Christianity. Judgement is not taught to be done to non-Christians, but explictly condemned. Judgement is taught to be between those who are brothers in the church. We are supposed to rebuke ourselves and our fellow Christians, not condemned all the non-Christians. I don't understand why we have it so backwards in practice. I'd also like to call you attention to a positive note. I am a student at Oral Roberts University. Yes, ORU has also had a controversial history, but may I draw you to some facts that make me proud to be a student here? Oral Roberts was the only nationally known travelling evangelist of his time, that stood against racial segregation in his camp meetings. He publically renounced law that forbad the mixing of races in religious meetings. He allowed both blacks and whites to attend services, respond to altar calls and pray together...all of which the press at that time tore up. Back then, that was unheard of, not just in the church, but in America. Many people may disagree with some of his beliefs, this I understand, esspecially with how us Christians present ourselves in the US today. I personally think that he was an amazing man, if only for his stand against racism, segregation, and hatred. What a heart. Our Bible-believing school is living proof that following Christ is very different from what some prominant figures have led America to believe it is. Our school has always not only allowed admission of any races and interacial dating/marriage/friendship, but has encouraged it, both in word and deed. The thing that impressed me most when I visited, as a high schooler in search for a fully-accredited (BJU cannot say this) university, was that the campus is full of life, color, joy and love. I'm not saying that all ORU students espose the same beliefs as myself or administration, but the overwelming majority are fine and/or encouraging of interacial dating. Many biracial couples can be seen at any given moment. It is just normal and Biblical. I would not have come to a Christian University, though I desired to (even though my family is not Christian), unless I had found one that had both policies and an environment that reflected the love of God and a lack of ignorance. I'm very glad that ORU exists. I'm really enjoying my years here and proud that my schools roots are not in racism. I think it would be awesome if you did some research on ORU's history. It would definitely help to assure your readers that you are not anti-Bible or anti-Christian, since most articles I've read on your site seem to portray those who believe the Bible or call themselves Christians, as either ignorant, loony or racist. Many of us aren't and truely appreciate your work. I personally would be grateful if you would show some of the activism that's occuring in the American church for multiculuralism and interacial acceptance. My church, Higher Dimensions, in Tulsa OK is also a prime example. There are plenty of articles out there on both ORU and Higher D.'s history and proof of what you stand for. Let the positive examples shine on your site too, not just the bad ones. :o) Thank you for your time and thoughts. Laura Holman Elementary Education & Early Childhood Education sophomore at ORU and summer missionary to Iris Ministry's ophanage in Maputo, Mozambique --- Luke 4:18-19
    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 14:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: Birgit Subject: Bob Jones University I just saw that Bob Jones University dropped its ban on interracial dating
    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:22:22 EST From: Aaron Biterman Subject: Vote Libertarian Vote Don Gorman
    Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:02:56 -0800 (PST) From: D. Huskins Subject: Letter to the Editor Greetings all, Nice site and a good source of information. Regarding the 2000 Census, and the problems with respondent ethnicity categories, there may be a post hoc solution (of a sorts) when the data are provided to various academic institutions, local governments and libraries for public use.Even the sometimes obtuse 1990 data can be accessed in tabular format, down to a census tract (neighborhood) level.Assuming that the complete variable roster is present, incorrect use or interpretation of population figures can be countered and refuted.If, for instance, multi-racial individuals are forcibly collapsed into a single category, given access to the aggregate raw data (not found in the usual published abstracts) accurate, if a little more complex figures can be distilled and presented. With the 1990 Census, Hispanic is a cultural category and isn't included in the Race totals.Hence, figures including Hispanic usually don't sum to a neat 100%.Most people are smart enough to grasp this once it is explained. Ancestry, which is essentially ancestor nationality, already allowed respondents to select 0, 1 or 2 categories in 1990. [I'm not suggesting that these variables are a substitute for race.] The multiplicity of selections is not a problem for analysis done in good faith, and multiple race categories for 2000 shouldn't be either. Ideally, the misuse of the Census racial categories could be countered with fact (or at least as close to fact as correctly tabulated figures get). Since 1990, both personal computers and the Internet have simplified the handling of massive amounts of data. Given a standard home PC and a typical consumer spreadsheet, anybody with sufficient skill should be able to download Census data and lucid instructions for use. Most likely, the 2000 aggregate data will eventually all be on line and accessible. To their credit, the Census Bureau is putting more and more information on line in generally increasingly friendly formats. Finding the correct page among hundreds can be a problem at times, though. There will be controversy with the 2000 Census results because of the impending undercount. Various groups will be interpreting figures to their own advantage. The disproportionate lack of some groups in the Census could shift power (Congressional seats) in some areas.The Census Bureau is considering (at some expense) having adjusted and unadjusted figures available. Data wrangling is going occur on a number of fronts.If the full spectrum of data is available, I would hope that the accurate would be recognized as such. Regards.
    Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:03:31 -0800 (PST) From: Kev Subject: Letter to the Editor First, thanks for a great site it is well over due and definitely needed. Many of the multiraccial community are dying to find support and friends to relate to and need something like this. Also many are living closeted lives, much like gay and lesbians once did, hoping one day to find a voice and freedom to become liberated. Secondly, I'd like to address Ron concerning his points about multiraccials not identifying with blacks. Sir, let me say that genetically they are no more black than they are white, they are a hybrid between the two. All blacks are not mixed with other races, however, a great number in this country are. But there are many who have not been mixed, like there are some whites that have not. But the bigger picture is why is it important to you sir? If 90% of whites and Blacks marry their own race then you should have nothing to worry about. But those who do intermarry have the right to privacy of thought and lifestyle. How would you enjoy someone telling you who to marry or where to live, what to eat or how to raise your kids? Well that is the way we feel hearing people saying how we should live our lives, especially people who do know us and have no stake in our lives. Whatever I do I don't need your or anyone elses approval. Unless you want to pay my bills and take care of all my needs. Don't worry about what I call myself or who I relate to and I won't try and control how you live. Thanks--A ardent Multiracial activist Shalom and Be Well.
    Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:43:50 -0800 (PST) From: charlotte Subject: Letter to the Editor Hi, as a bi-racial mental health nursing student, I am currently carrying out research in the incidence of schizophrenia amongst individuals of African and/or Caribbean descent. Any helpful tips on where to get any statistics? I'm in England. Cheers
    Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:14:27 -0700 (MST) From: TheosoD'Rejean Subject: Re: The Multiracial Activist - Special Alert 14 Tansi, Well, perhaps they are trying to make it the "rule", but our cause will prevail. Yours in the struggle, TheosoD'Rejean AMEA/MOXHCA, Edmonton, AB, Cda.           skydogs     ***** kawasaki *****
    Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: R.Jones Subject: Letter to the Editor Here's a twist that I don't think anyone has ever thought of about blended (multiracial) people They are a part of the evolutionary process of the American. Think about it: out of the different groups that constitute what is America, you have a person that can represent all of them, yet this person doesn't belong to any of them. This person is the "new and Improved" american. I personally feel that the reason that this country has so many problems with race is because we are fighting against a natural evolutonary process.I'll even go one step further: by not blending genes, we are going against God's ultimate plan (yes,I did it! people have let Khalil Muhammad and Matthew Hale do it. Now it's my turn!) There's no mistake why we are all here on this continent. We are to blend and become all-together someone different. So on that note, let's keep having beautiful blended babies and snuff out racism and inbreeding.
    Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:26:00 EST From: Subject: Yes, Can y'all need do something for Houston, TX? I'm a multriacial descendant of African-American, Native American, and Caucasian ancestry. I live in the Houston area and I would like for something to be done here for us multiracial people. Many of us are ignored in various ways so please help us down here and please do include people of multiracial ancestry as multiracial instead of just only focusing those who come from interracial marriages in our struggle for civil rights. People have multiracial ancestors (like myself) are multiracial people, too. Even do many of our families deny their mixed roots and claim to be monoracial people. I still refuse to deny my mixed heritage. We (multiracial descendants) need to be known in the movement, too.
    Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:40:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Dismay" Subject: Letter to the Editor What is this message board about again? I am a black man who is currently engaged to a white woman. We are planning to have children. Correct me if I am wrong, but I sense a bit of racism or at the very least racial confusion. There seems to be a very anti-black/anti-white feel to this message board. It's almost as if we are now promoting a superior class, the bi-racial. When are we going to get over this who is superior nonsense. Few Americans can claim ethnic purity, myself included. I have a great grandmother who was Cherokee and a great grandfather who was Jewish. This is evident in the hair textures of my family and the varying range of skin tones. Anyway, define/describe yourself as you please, but let's not make the same mistakes as our forebearers. One Love Dismay

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